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Three posts in an hour... I leave UESP alone for 5 minutes and see what I have to catch up with?
A few days ago, Elliot the Thick created a new template for Oblivion Editor Ids. Ignoring the fact that this is a totally stupid idea for a minute, he has tweaked it, ending up with yesterday's edit that took the total size of the template to 85.3K!
I'm not going to bother telling you what a stupid idea this is. Anybody who knows anything about MediaWiki (and Elliot the Thick claims that he does) knows this is a site killer.
Let's see what MediaWiki says about templates, shall we? "If you have standard texts you want to include on several pages, the MediaWiki template feature comes into play."
EtT's template puts a different piece of text onto each page that uses it. Just how thick do you have to be to think this was the right use for a template? Oh - as thick as Elliot the Thick. Of course.
Friday, 4 December 2009
Assume Good Faith, Rawtwat Style
Rawtwat the Vicious violated policy by extending a block when there was no proof that he was blocking the right person. I mean the most central wiki policy of Assume Good Faith. Rawtwat is assuming bad faith.
He seems to know about AGF - at least, this post says he does (but note the qualifier - "we're supposed to assume good faith" (my emphasis), but how does he explain this post where he says "No matter what Rpeh has done for the site, he has become a disruptive vandal, and I plan on dealing with him like one". Anybody else who said anything like that would be banned.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ratwar is out of control. He is violating policy and making decision according to his own agenda. He needs to be removed from power before he does real harm to UESP.
I'm still not convinced that The Great Deceiver was innocent, but I hate the hypocrisy more. Ratwar has become a liability. He does nothing for UESP and is now trying to drive off good faith editors with his violations of policy. Get him out.
He seems to know about AGF - at least, this post says he does (but note the qualifier - "we're supposed to assume good faith" (my emphasis), but how does he explain this post where he says "No matter what Rpeh has done for the site, he has become a disruptive vandal, and I plan on dealing with him like one". Anybody else who said anything like that would be banned.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ratwar is out of control. He is violating policy and making decision according to his own agenda. He needs to be removed from power before he does real harm to UESP.
I'm still not convinced that The Great Deceiver was innocent, but I hate the hypocrisy more. Ratwar has become a liability. He does nothing for UESP and is now trying to drive off good faith editors with his violations of policy. Get him out.
Elliot the Thick... Clever... Thick
It seems I might be misjudging Elliot the Thick. Maybe he's not stupid, just schizophrenic. Follow his posts on the Administrator Noticeboard and see what you think:
22:05, 30 November 2009: I agree with the month block extension, and I think that a month should be added each time the block is circumvented, in addition to a reset of the block.
00:15, 2 December 2009: I, personally, don't believe this is rpeh.
00:38, 2 December 2009: Yes, and I am against an extension.
19:58, 4 December 2009: Plus, even there is consensus, policy states that it is Ratwar's final decision. The block ends Sunday, so I believe that any further conversation hurts more than it helps.
Out... in... out.. shake it all about. Just what do you think, Elliot?
Oh - and if you check the Block Log, it expires just after 9pm on Monday. Given the time difference, that means he can't post until Tuesday. You really are thick, Elliot. Go back to eating paste.
22:05, 30 November 2009: I agree with the month block extension, and I think that a month should be added each time the block is circumvented, in addition to a reset of the block.
00:15, 2 December 2009: I, personally, don't believe this is rpeh.
00:38, 2 December 2009: Yes, and I am against an extension.
19:58, 4 December 2009: Plus, even there is consensus, policy states that it is Ratwar's final decision. The block ends Sunday, so I believe that any further conversation hurts more than it helps.
Out... in... out.. shake it all about. Just what do you think, Elliot?
Oh - and if you check the Block Log, it expires just after 9pm on Monday. Given the time difference, that means he can't post until Tuesday. You really are thick, Elliot. Go back to eating paste.
Thursday, 3 December 2009
Ratwar Blows His Chance
Rather than taking his pwning like a man, Rawtwat the Vicious decides to do what he's always criticised The Great Deceiver for doing... and invokes policy!
Well it's good to see you read the page at last, Rawtwat, even though it took you months to do it. You seem to be quite happy violating the policy yourself, but when there's a consensus (minus you, because you're such a twat) you jump on anybody who violates what you think should be policy.
In case you missed it, Rawtwat is invoking the "If there is disagreement among administrators, Daveh should be asked to make the final decision" clause of UESP's blocking policy. The trouble is, Rawtwat my little love, there is no disagreement. All the administrators agree that you're acting like a moron, and only you disagree with that. You're the odd man out now.
Well it's good to see you read the page at last, Rawtwat, even though it took you months to do it. You seem to be quite happy violating the policy yourself, but when there's a consensus (minus you, because you're such a twat) you jump on anybody who violates what you think should be policy.
In case you missed it, Rawtwat is invoking the "If there is disagreement among administrators, Daveh should be asked to make the final decision" clause of UESP's blocking policy. The trouble is, Rawtwat my little love, there is no disagreement. All the administrators agree that you're acting like a moron, and only you disagree with that. You're the odd man out now.
Wednesday, 2 December 2009
It's Rawtwat's Big Chance
I'm not going to link every diff, but this debate would seem to be Rawtwat the Vicious's last chance before he loses all credibility.
Rawtwat is demanding the right to insult, block and generally smear anybody he wants. Everybody else that has commented so far is trying to find polite ways to tell him he's being an idiot. He has even gone so far that ^CEshe^V, Elliot and Elliot's Bitch have told him he's being too vicious.
The Last Good Admin has had some reasonable things to say, things that RtV called "discouraging" although that should be expected given what a vicious idiot Rawtwat has become lately. Nothing yet from GK the Silent or Nephele the Pious, but that's par for the course.
It looks like this will be a case where a blocked user takes on an administrator... and wins. Rawtwat has lost a huge amount of his remaining credibility and The Great Deceiver must be feeling slightly smug given the number of people that have supported him (even Elliot's Bitch has had nice things to say for once, although his new user idea was the single most st00p1d thing suggested in UESP's history).
Rawtwat is demanding the right to insult, block and generally smear anybody he wants. Everybody else that has commented so far is trying to find polite ways to tell him he's being an idiot. He has even gone so far that ^CEshe^V, Elliot and Elliot's Bitch have told him he's being too vicious.
The Last Good Admin has had some reasonable things to say, things that RtV called "discouraging" although that should be expected given what a vicious idiot Rawtwat has become lately. Nothing yet from GK the Silent or Nephele the Pious, but that's par for the course.
It looks like this will be a case where a blocked user takes on an administrator... and wins. Rawtwat has lost a huge amount of his remaining credibility and The Great Deceiver must be feeling slightly smug given the number of people that have supported him (even Elliot's Bitch has had nice things to say for once, although his new user idea was the single most st00p1d thing suggested in UESP's history).
Tuesday, 1 December 2009
RtV and EtT in Perfect Harmony
If anybody needed any further proof that calling Elliot "Thick" and Rawtwat "Vicious", it came last night.
Elliot the Thick yet again ignored everybody else and went ahead making a shit load of minor changes without discussing it with anybody. (I can't be bothered to include all the links).
Some anon (and I get bored typing that - please can you create accounts?) reverted all his changes with the perfectly valid reason "Change made with no discussion - this is the site standard: do not change it without involving others" in each case. It also posted on EtT's page, basically saying "don't do that without discussion".
All perfectly good wiki behaviour from our latest anon friend, right?
Wrong. In the hypocrisy- and paranoia-filled world of modern UESP, any dissent is ruthlessly trodden underfoot.
So first, we get EtT reverting the comment on his talk page. The anon reverts; EtT reverts - you know how it works by now. EtT can't stand it when people tell him he's wrong.
Next, Rawtwat the Vicious blocks the IP (for no violation at all) and in a particularly fine example of paranoia, decides the anon was Rpeh, so re-blocks him too.
The anon points out at length that Rawtwat is a stupid fuckwit, and appeals the block... which Rawtwat finally acknowledges while making plain his belief the IP is Rpeh. Of course, the anon is blocked so can't contribute to the debate except by posting on its talk page - again, typical vicious Rawtwat. Despite a few requests for its comments to be moved from its talk page to the place where the debate is happening, Rawtwat refuses. EtT makes a typically ungrammatical post ("similarities are way too much"? Starting a sentence with "And"? For a self-proclaimed grammar nazi, he's utterly shit at grammar). He then takes time to spit in the anon's face before our friend decides he's had enough.
Meanwhile, Elliot the Thick re-does his own changes - still with nobody else getting to make a comment.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Elliot and Rawtwat are out of control. They are making up their own rules and applying them as they see fit. Both of them need removing from positions of power before all good faith editors are driven off.
Elliot the Thick yet again ignored everybody else and went ahead making a shit load of minor changes without discussing it with anybody. (I can't be bothered to include all the links).
Some anon (and I get bored typing that - please can you create accounts?) reverted all his changes with the perfectly valid reason "Change made with no discussion - this is the site standard: do not change it without involving others" in each case. It also posted on EtT's page, basically saying "don't do that without discussion".
All perfectly good wiki behaviour from our latest anon friend, right?
Wrong. In the hypocrisy- and paranoia-filled world of modern UESP, any dissent is ruthlessly trodden underfoot.
So first, we get EtT reverting the comment on his talk page. The anon reverts; EtT reverts - you know how it works by now. EtT can't stand it when people tell him he's wrong.
Next, Rawtwat the Vicious blocks the IP (for no violation at all) and in a particularly fine example of paranoia, decides the anon was Rpeh, so re-blocks him too.
The anon points out at length that Rawtwat is a stupid fuckwit, and appeals the block... which Rawtwat finally acknowledges while making plain his belief the IP is Rpeh. Of course, the anon is blocked so can't contribute to the debate except by posting on its talk page - again, typical vicious Rawtwat. Despite a few requests for its comments to be moved from its talk page to the place where the debate is happening, Rawtwat refuses. EtT makes a typically ungrammatical post ("similarities are way too much"? Starting a sentence with "And"? For a self-proclaimed grammar nazi, he's utterly shit at grammar). He then takes time to spit in the anon's face before our friend decides he's had enough.
Meanwhile, Elliot the Thick re-does his own changes - still with nobody else getting to make a comment.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Elliot and Rawtwat are out of control. They are making up their own rules and applying them as they see fit. Both of them need removing from positions of power before all good faith editors are driven off.
Rawtart makes Another go for teh Stoopid
This is a bit out of date, but it's something I noticed a while ago anyway.
Rawtwat the Vicious can't spot the difference between an IP address and an account. Look at block notices like this, this, and this all state that a named account is really an IP address.
Look, Rawtwat, I know you're pretty stupid but you're gonna have to fight Elliot for the stupid moniker. If you really want, I can make your nickname "Rawtwat the Ugly and Vicious", but Elliot the Thick keeps his name for now. Okay?
Rawtwat the Vicious can't spot the difference between an IP address and an account. Look at block notices like this, this, and this all state that a named account is really an IP address.
Look, Rawtwat, I know you're pretty stupid but you're gonna have to fight Elliot for the stupid moniker. If you really want, I can make your nickname "Rawtwat the Ugly and Vicious", but Elliot the Thick keeps his name for now. Okay?
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