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Now let me be honest and say that the Recent Changes page looks like a bomb exploded. Recently, when this has happened it has been because of a huge fight between The Great Deceiver and Elliot the Banned, Obnoxious and Thick but not today.
The activity today has been mostly from Arny, Mikeyboy52, GUM!!! and Scorpio... four newish users who excel at irritating other users by plastering the site with edits on talk pages.
Things began with Mikeyboy asking Elliot's Bitch about image linking that turned into a discussion about images in signatures. When TGD came in with what's becoming a standard tactic from him - a link to Wikipedia - you might be forgiven for thinking the discussion was over. No. Mikeyboy moved it on to TGD's talk page instead.
Meanwhile, Scorpio made this edit, which added a list of "Notable People" to the Leyawiin page. Now this idea has some good points and some bad points, but what everybody would agree is that it didn't need a load of new users talking about it. We then get at least 100 edits from the group named above and it all ends with Scorpio blanking stuff because he was feeling picked-upon. He also gave Arny a rather wet slap. Eventually, the Queen of Trolls warns him for slapping but he doesn't listen and goes on and on, evidently with a broken CAPS LOCK KEY. Herschel, then TGD ask him to calm down but to no avail. After some more vandalism, for which QOT blocked him, he leaves a nice message for her, before Timenn extends the block to a month. For no good reason.
Two lessons have been learned today. 1) 12 year olds should NOT be given Internet access without supervision. 2) God! Isn't it dull without EtBOT!
Thursday, 10 June 2010
Monday, 7 June 2010
At last!
Tonight, I bask in the rays of joy and happiness that flow from my monitor, for Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick has been blocked at long last.
The day started with relatively new user Arny saying that he supported a block on EtOT, because he believed EtOT was more responsible than The Great Deceiver for all the arguments we have seen lately. You will never guess what happened next... EtOT got upset! In a post with an edit summary of "Arny, your suggestion is ridiculous", EtOT tells Arny that he "should keep out of such debates".
Arny replies, and points out that EtOT should already have received a block for his persistent violations of policy. EtOT obviously thought about this carefully, considered his behaviour and replied in a calm, thoughtful manner that.... oh who the hell am I trying to fool? He vomits a mass of diffs over the page, accusing Arny of playing the ''ignoratio elenchi'' game (irrelevant thesis - and BTW, EtOT, I thought one of your arguments was that only TGD and I use Latin?) then adds Arny's name to his insulting list.
At this point, the Powers step in. Timenn had warned EtOT before about dismissing the views of other users so gives EtOT an official warning for doing it. EtOT reacts with his usual politeness. Timenn replies and EtOT whines some more.
Meanwhile, Michaeldsuarez pops up on the Administrator Noticeboard talking about EtOT's record on Wikipedia. EtOT feels he has to respond ("How does my WP behavior have any bearing on this matter?" Answer: because you were a dick there and you're a dick on UESP too), and MDS replies.
MDS then makes a very good point that EtOT is acting like Dr. Jones, who once had an insulting list of his own. EtOT misses the point, and MDS points out that Dr. Jones was blocked, largely because of the list. EtOT tells him to "GTFO" before moving the debate to MDS' own talk page and telling him to "stay out of it".
Then, we have the golden moment. Nephele blocks EtOT for a week for "Repeated harassment of other users despite being warned just hours ago to stop". She then goes on a cleaning spree, removing all the nonsense EtOT has added during the day.
So there we have it. The whole process has taken far too long and it should have been done some time ago, but he has finally had his block. Something tells me we haven't seen the end of Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick, but at least we don't have to put up with him for a week.
The day started with relatively new user Arny saying that he supported a block on EtOT, because he believed EtOT was more responsible than The Great Deceiver for all the arguments we have seen lately. You will never guess what happened next... EtOT got upset! In a post with an edit summary of "Arny, your suggestion is ridiculous", EtOT tells Arny that he "should keep out of such debates".
Arny replies, and points out that EtOT should already have received a block for his persistent violations of policy. EtOT obviously thought about this carefully, considered his behaviour and replied in a calm, thoughtful manner that.... oh who the hell am I trying to fool? He vomits a mass of diffs over the page, accusing Arny of playing the ''ignoratio elenchi'' game (irrelevant thesis - and BTW, EtOT, I thought one of your arguments was that only TGD and I use Latin?) then adds Arny's name to his insulting list.
At this point, the Powers step in. Timenn had warned EtOT before about dismissing the views of other users so gives EtOT an official warning for doing it. EtOT reacts with his usual politeness. Timenn replies and EtOT whines some more.
Meanwhile, Michaeldsuarez pops up on the Administrator Noticeboard talking about EtOT's record on Wikipedia. EtOT feels he has to respond ("How does my WP behavior have any bearing on this matter?" Answer: because you were a dick there and you're a dick on UESP too), and MDS replies.
MDS then makes a very good point that EtOT is acting like Dr. Jones, who once had an insulting list of his own. EtOT misses the point, and MDS points out that Dr. Jones was blocked, largely because of the list. EtOT tells him to "GTFO" before moving the debate to MDS' own talk page and telling him to "stay out of it".
Then, we have the golden moment. Nephele blocks EtOT for a week for "Repeated harassment of other users despite being warned just hours ago to stop". She then goes on a cleaning spree, removing all the nonsense EtOT has added during the day.
So there we have it. The whole process has taken far too long and it should have been done some time ago, but he has finally had his block. Something tells me we haven't seen the end of Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick, but at least we don't have to put up with him for a week.
Saturday, 5 June 2010
New Name for Nephele
Every so often something comes along that's so good you have to clap your hands and admit that it's better than anything you could have come up with yourself.
Today's example is this post, which comes up with a perfect new name for the editor formerly known as Nephele the Pious. She is now Queen of Trolls, and it's a well deserved name. As the post says, "The skill and style with which she picked up on two issues that were essentially dead and turned them into huge, active, controversial topics can only be admired."
Today's example is this post, which comes up with a perfect new name for the editor formerly known as Nephele the Pious. She is now Queen of Trolls, and it's a well deserved name. As the post says, "The skill and style with which she picked up on two issues that were essentially dead and turned them into huge, active, controversial topics can only be admired."
Friday, 4 June 2010
Busy Morning
Looks like war between Nephele the Pious and The Great Deceiver has broken out overnight.
It began with NtP confirming that the Masked Template Guru was wrong to delete anonymous posts for no reason by suggesting a new policy about such posts. She then follows it up with another policy aimed straight at Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick and TGD.
It doesn't take long before TGD opposes them both.
It also doesn't take long before he comes back with a policy proposal of his own, aimed so directly at NtP that it's probably still ricocheting back and forth between her nipples.
Elliot the Thick then appears - neatly proving rpeh's point that he only ever turns up for the controversy, which is the very definition of trolling - and makes three typically pointless posts of his own.
Nephele's first policy makes some kind of sense but it would be much easier to disable anonymous editing altogether rather than having some kind of half-arsed measure like this that is totally open to interpretation and will only lead to more edit warring.
The second one won't work even for a moment and is a really, really silly suggestion by NtP. As TGD has already pointed out, Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick will edit pages he knows TGD is about to edit to prevent TGD updating them. EtOT pretends he doesn't know how he can do this, but that's nothing more than a smokescreen.
TGD's suggestion is definitely overdue. Nobody left on the site knows anything about Garrett and Endareth, while Rawtwat the Vicious should have been removed as an admin months ago.
So we have Nephele making snide remarks about Rpeh, Rpeh telling her off in reply, then Nephele aiming policies at Rpeh and Rpeh aiming one right back.
This has all happened since Nephele the Pious returned from her break. Perhaps she should be blocked for disruptive behaviour?
UPDATE: EtOT has always got to get the last word in, although even by his standards this is illiterate and difficult to understand. I think he is trying to say that he doesn't have time to edit the wiki. Then how does he have time to annoy everybody on the admin noticeboard? Simple answer: EtOT is a lying bastard who is only out to cause trouble. TGD may not be able to use the "T" word, but I can: Elliot is nothing but a troll. Block him now.
It began with NtP confirming that the Masked Template Guru was wrong to delete anonymous posts for no reason by suggesting a new policy about such posts. She then follows it up with another policy aimed straight at Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick and TGD.
It doesn't take long before TGD opposes them both.
It also doesn't take long before he comes back with a policy proposal of his own, aimed so directly at NtP that it's probably still ricocheting back and forth between her nipples.
Elliot the Thick then appears - neatly proving rpeh's point that he only ever turns up for the controversy, which is the very definition of trolling - and makes three typically pointless posts of his own.
Nephele's first policy makes some kind of sense but it would be much easier to disable anonymous editing altogether rather than having some kind of half-arsed measure like this that is totally open to interpretation and will only lead to more edit warring.
The second one won't work even for a moment and is a really, really silly suggestion by NtP. As TGD has already pointed out, Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick will edit pages he knows TGD is about to edit to prevent TGD updating them. EtOT pretends he doesn't know how he can do this, but that's nothing more than a smokescreen.
TGD's suggestion is definitely overdue. Nobody left on the site knows anything about Garrett and Endareth, while Rawtwat the Vicious should have been removed as an admin months ago.
So we have Nephele making snide remarks about Rpeh, Rpeh telling her off in reply, then Nephele aiming policies at Rpeh and Rpeh aiming one right back.
This has all happened since Nephele the Pious returned from her break. Perhaps she should be blocked for disruptive behaviour?
UPDATE: EtOT has always got to get the last word in, although even by his standards this is illiterate and difficult to understand. I think he is trying to say that he doesn't have time to edit the wiki. Then how does he have time to annoy everybody on the admin noticeboard? Simple answer: EtOT is a lying bastard who is only out to cause trouble. TGD may not be able to use the "T" word, but I can: Elliot is nothing but a troll. Block him now.
Monday, 31 May 2010
Tempora Mutantur
A Brief History of Time UESP Template Improvements:
Nephele, 20 March 2009: I've got these great ideas to improve our templates.
Rpeh, 20 March 2009: Wow those look great but "my biggest concern is the impact on the database"
Nephele, 20 March 2009: Dun worry, I iz teh uberl33t hax0r! All your base, etc...
Rpeh, 16 May 2010: Dave, I think we have a problem.
Daveh, 17 May 2010: Yeah, HAL, I think we got it.
Rpeh, 17 May 2010: I'm feeling very enthusiastic about the mission.
Rpeh, 23 May 2010: Uh-oh Daveh. The AE35 unit is about to undergo critical failure.
Frank Poole, 23 May 2010: Yeah, Houston we have a problem.
Nephele, 30 May 2010: Okay, you know I said my code wouldn't cause these problems?
UESP Servers: Daisy... Daisy... give.....me.....your......answer...........do..........
Nephele, 20 March 2009: I've got these great ideas to improve our templates.
Rpeh, 20 March 2009: Wow those look great but "my biggest concern is the impact on the database"
Nephele, 20 March 2009: Dun worry, I iz teh uberl33t hax0r! All your base, etc...
Rpeh, 16 May 2010: Dave, I think we have a problem.
Daveh, 17 May 2010: Yeah, HAL, I think we got it.
Rpeh, 17 May 2010: I'm feeling very enthusiastic about the mission.
Rpeh, 23 May 2010: Uh-oh Daveh. The AE35 unit is about to undergo critical failure.
Frank Poole, 23 May 2010: Yeah, Houston we have a problem.
Nephele, 30 May 2010: Okay, you know I said my code wouldn't cause these problems?
UESP Servers: Daisy... Daisy... give.....me.....your......answer...........do..........
Friday, 28 May 2010
She's doing it on purpose now
Never content to use one word where 10 would do, Nephele has raised the bar by even managing to make an overly verbose proposed deletion summary.
I will quote the reason in full since the page is likely to be deleted soon: "Unnecessary and redundant article. Creator needs to read the style guide on Redundancy and the new article guidelines at Starting New Pages. Content belongs at Morrowind:Starting out, and is probably already covered there ("probably" because it contains too many mistakes and vague descriptions for me to decipher right now)"
So in one post she manages to:
That's Nephele the Pious for you.
Note that after the initial flurry of "Welcome back!" posts, nobody is daring to engage with her. Nephele evidently has her own mission for the wiki and it doesn't involve other users.
I will quote the reason in full since the page is likely to be deleted soon: "Unnecessary and redundant article. Creator needs to read the style guide on Redundancy and the new article guidelines at Starting New Pages. Content belongs at Morrowind:Starting out, and is probably already covered there ("probably" because it contains too many mistakes and vague descriptions for me to decipher right now)"
So in one post she manages to:
- Make an overlong argument
- Patronise a user
- Insult other users who edited a different page
That's Nephele the Pious for you.
Note that after the initial flurry of "Welcome back!" posts, nobody is daring to engage with her. Nephele evidently has her own mission for the wiki and it doesn't involve other users.
Elliot the Bully 2
Well we found out what Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick planned to do after the 24 hours were up. He planned to be obnoxious. Who would have thought?
Elliot: You think you are cute sending PMs?
Corevette: What
Elliot: http://uespwatch.blogspot.com/2010/05/elliot-bully.html Thanks for the link, EtOT!
Elliot: Don't play stupid
Corevette: I sent them to an admin yes
Elliot: You are not permitted to under UESP guidelines
Elliot: Hell, go ask rpeh
Corevette: Email, yes I am
Elliot: No you arent
Corevette: That is to bring it up on-wiki
Corevette: I asked what to do first
Elliot: Logs of chatroom discussions should not be posted or distributed.
Elliot: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/UESPWiki:IRC#Channel_Guidelines
Elliot: To anyone!
Elliot: So, who did you send it to?
Corevette: That is confiential
Corevette: Im sure they would not want me to go a-blabbing
Elliot: Funny
Elliot: because I am saying THE SAME FUCKING THING
Elliot: How does it feel to be a complete hypocrite?
Corevette: You violated Chatspikes rules and check this one out in etiquitte
Elliot: I violated ChatSpike rules?
Elliot: Please tell me which rule
Elliot: Unless you are making it up
Corevette: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/UESPWiki:Etiquette#IRC
Corevette: Not only that yes, chatspike has that rule. Although I am not going to bring it up with them
Corevette: Personal attacks are not looked upon kindly
Elliot: Grow up
Corevette: <3
Elliot: Are you going to cry because someone calls you incompetent?
Elliot: Hmm, Daedryon?
Corevette: LOL
Elliot: Yeah, that would be giving you too much credit
Elliot: Are you going to send this transcript too?
Elliot: And tell me who you sent it to
Elliot: Now
Corevette: Possibly, I think this would give others a few good laughs, as it has me
Elliot: That you are stupid?
Corevette: Why? What is the diffrence
Elliot: Yeah, I have laughed a lot too
Elliot: Tell me who you sent it to
Elliot: GK?
Elliot: Timenn?
Elliot: Oh wait
Elliot: Rpeh!
Elliot: we have a winner!
Corevette: Not an admin.
Corevette: And no not rpeh
Elliot: You said you sent it to an admin
Corevette: I meant rpeh isn't an admin
Elliot: I sent them to an admin yes
Elliot: Well, lying is an easy thing to do
Corevette: It dosent matter who I sent it to...they have all seen it by now
Elliot: Tell me
Elliot: So I can can your ass for a blatant violation
Corevette: I see I am wasting my time here
Corevette: No , YOU are
Elliot: Editing the wiki is a waste of time
Elliot: All of the incompetent admins are a waste of time
Elliot: YOU are a waste of time
Elliot: Because you are a child trapped in your own shitty wording
Elliot: Now, I know I said shit
Elliot: can you be mature enough to handle that?
Corevette: So why the hell are you wasting your time talking to me
Corevette: If it holds no importance to you why stay here
Elliot: Because it's hilarious
Elliot: Same with rpeh
Elliot: and his little bitching about Eshe dumping his ass
Elliot: Where he cried and got drunk that night
Elliot: that is HILARIOUS
Corevette: I see you have nothing better to do with your time then to trash someone you dont even know
Elliot: Oh, and your Corevette name
Corevette: IS SPELLED WRONG
Corevette: I KNOW
Elliot: I know rpeh better than most
Elliot: Better than you
Corevette: I know that
Elliot: Now go tell him I said this to get him to bitch and whine and moan about how I am a shitty "little man"
Elliot: And tell him I send his mother some love, the poor woman
Corevette: You're disgusting
EtOT has tried to fall back on this rule of "You can't post what I say because of the UESP IRC guidelines" but what he's obviously too stupid to realise is that those guidelines only apply to the main UESP channel - #uespwiki. If I want to send his drivel to the Guardian and ask them to print it in a special pull-out colour section, I can do so without violating a single policy.
It looks like EtOT is violating some kind of confidence with rpeh, too. And, of course, he makes the obligatory comment about someone's mother.
The Chatspike policies can be found here. One of them is "Don't be lame. This includes threatening or abusing people ... and other things too. These Activities Will get you banned from the network". Corevette should report EtOT and get him banned because let's face it - EtOT excels at lame.
Lastly, note that EtOT says that "Editing the wiki is a waste of time". It's time for a kindly admin to make sure he never has to waste his time in this way again.
Elliot: You think you are cute sending PMs?
Corevette: What
Elliot: http://uespwatch.blogspot.com/2010/05/elliot-bully.html Thanks for the link, EtOT!
Elliot: Don't play stupid
Corevette: I sent them to an admin yes
Elliot: You are not permitted to under UESP guidelines
Elliot: Hell, go ask rpeh
Corevette: Email, yes I am
Elliot: No you arent
Corevette: That is to bring it up on-wiki
Corevette: I asked what to do first
Elliot: Logs of chatroom discussions should not be posted or distributed.
Elliot: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/UESPWiki:IRC#Channel_Guidelines
Elliot: To anyone!
Elliot: So, who did you send it to?
Corevette: That is confiential
Corevette: Im sure they would not want me to go a-blabbing
Elliot: Funny
Elliot: because I am saying THE SAME FUCKING THING
Elliot: How does it feel to be a complete hypocrite?
Corevette: You violated Chatspikes rules and check this one out in etiquitte
Elliot: I violated ChatSpike rules?
Elliot: Please tell me which rule
Elliot: Unless you are making it up
Corevette: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/UESPWiki:Etiquette#IRC
Corevette: Not only that yes, chatspike has that rule. Although I am not going to bring it up with them
Corevette: Personal attacks are not looked upon kindly
Elliot: Grow up
Corevette: <3
Elliot: Are you going to cry because someone calls you incompetent?
Elliot: Hmm, Daedryon?
Corevette: LOL
Elliot: Yeah, that would be giving you too much credit
Elliot: Are you going to send this transcript too?
Elliot: And tell me who you sent it to
Elliot: Now
Corevette: Possibly, I think this would give others a few good laughs, as it has me
Elliot: That you are stupid?
Corevette: Why? What is the diffrence
Elliot: Yeah, I have laughed a lot too
Elliot: Tell me who you sent it to
Elliot: GK?
Elliot: Timenn?
Elliot: Oh wait
Elliot: Rpeh!
Elliot: we have a winner!
Corevette: Not an admin.
Corevette: And no not rpeh
Elliot: You said you sent it to an admin
Corevette: I meant rpeh isn't an admin
Elliot: I sent them to an admin yes
Elliot: Well, lying is an easy thing to do
Corevette: It dosent matter who I sent it to...they have all seen it by now
Elliot: Tell me
Elliot: So I can can your ass for a blatant violation
Corevette: I see I am wasting my time here
Corevette: No , YOU are
Elliot: Editing the wiki is a waste of time
Elliot: All of the incompetent admins are a waste of time
Elliot: YOU are a waste of time
Elliot: Because you are a child trapped in your own shitty wording
Elliot: Now, I know I said shit
Elliot: can you be mature enough to handle that?
Corevette: So why the hell are you wasting your time talking to me
Corevette: If it holds no importance to you why stay here
Elliot: Because it's hilarious
Elliot: Same with rpeh
Elliot: and his little bitching about Eshe dumping his ass
Elliot: Where he cried and got drunk that night
Elliot: that is HILARIOUS
Corevette: I see you have nothing better to do with your time then to trash someone you dont even know
Elliot: Oh, and your Corevette name
Corevette: IS SPELLED WRONG
Corevette: I KNOW
Elliot: I know rpeh better than most
Elliot: Better than you
Corevette: I know that
Elliot: Now go tell him I said this to get him to bitch and whine and moan about how I am a shitty "little man"
Elliot: And tell him I send his mother some love, the poor woman
Corevette: You're disgusting
EtOT has tried to fall back on this rule of "You can't post what I say because of the UESP IRC guidelines" but what he's obviously too stupid to realise is that those guidelines only apply to the main UESP channel - #uespwiki. If I want to send his drivel to the Guardian and ask them to print it in a special pull-out colour section, I can do so without violating a single policy.
It looks like EtOT is violating some kind of confidence with rpeh, too. And, of course, he makes the obligatory comment about someone's mother.
The Chatspike policies can be found here. One of them is "Don't be lame. This includes threatening or abusing people ... and other things too. These Activities Will get you banned from the network". Corevette should report EtOT and get him banned because let's face it - EtOT excels at lame.
Lastly, note that EtOT says that "Editing the wiki is a waste of time". It's time for a kindly admin to make sure he never has to waste his time in this way again.
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