Tempora Mutantur

A Brief History of Time UESP Template Improvements:
Nephele, 20 March 2009: I've got these great ideas to improve our templates.
Rpeh, 20 March 2009: Wow those look great but "my biggest concern is the impact on the database"
Nephele, 20 March 2009: Dun worry, I iz teh uberl33t hax0r! All your base, etc...
Rpeh, 16 May 2010: Dave, I think we have a problem.
Daveh, 17 May 2010: Yeah, HAL, I think we got it.
Rpeh, 17 May 2010: I'm feeling very enthusiastic about the mission.
Rpeh, 23 May 2010: Uh-oh Daveh. The AE35 unit is about to undergo critical failure.
Frank Poole, 23 May 2010: Yeah, Houston we have a problem.
Nephele, 30 May 2010: Okay, you know I said my code wouldn't cause these problems?
UESP Servers: Daisy... Daisy... give.....me.....your......answer...........do..........

She's doing it on purpose now

Never content to use one word where 10 would do, Nephele has raised the bar by even managing to make an overly verbose proposed deletion summary.

I will quote the reason in full since the page is likely to be deleted soon: "Unnecessary and redundant article. Creator needs to read the style guide on Redundancy and the new article guidelines at Starting New Pages. Content belongs at Morrowind:Starting out, and is probably already covered there ("probably" because it contains too many mistakes and vague descriptions for me to decipher right now)"

So in one post she manages to:

1. Make an overlong argument
2. Patronise a user
3. Insult other users who edited a different page

That's Nephele the Pious for you.

Note that after the initial flurry of "Welcome back!" posts, nobody is daring to engage with her. Nephele evidently has her own mission for the wiki and it doesn't involve other users.

Elliot the Bully 2

Well we found out what Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick planned to do after the 24 hours were up. He planned to be obnoxious. Who would have thought?

Elliot: You think you are cute sending PMs?
Corevette: What
Elliot: http://uespwatch.blogspot.com/2010/05/elliot-bully.html Thanks for the link, EtOT!
Elliot: Don't play stupid
Corevette: I sent them to an admin yes
Elliot: You are not permitted to under UESP guidelines
Elliot: Hell, go ask rpeh
Corevette: Email, yes I am
Elliot: No you arent
Corevette: That is to bring it up on-wiki
Corevette: I asked what to do first
Elliot: Logs of chatroom discussions should not be posted or distributed.
Elliot: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/UESPWiki:IRC#Channel_Guidelines
Elliot: To anyone!
Elliot: So, who did you send it to?
Corevette: That is confiential
Corevette: Im sure they would not want me to go a-blabbing
Elliot: Funny
Elliot: because I am saying THE SAME FUCKING THING
Elliot: How does it feel to be a complete hypocrite?
Corevette: You violated Chatspikes rules and check this one out in etiquitte
Elliot: I violated ChatSpike rules?
Elliot: Please tell me which rule
Elliot: Unless you are making it up
Corevette: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/UESPWiki:Etiquette#IRC
Corevette: Not only that yes, chatspike has that rule. Although I am not going to bring it up with them
Corevette: Personal attacks are not looked upon kindly
Elliot: Grow up
Corevette: <3
Elliot: Are you going to cry because someone calls you incompetent?
Elliot: Hmm, Daedryon?
Corevette: LOL
Elliot: Yeah, that would be giving you too much credit
Elliot: Are you going to send this transcript too?
Elliot: And tell me who you sent it to
Elliot: Now
Corevette: Possibly, I think this would give others a few good laughs, as it has me
Elliot: That you are stupid?
Corevette: Why? What is the diffrence
Elliot: Yeah, I have laughed a lot too
Elliot: Tell me who you sent it to
Elliot: GK?
Elliot: Timenn?
Elliot: Oh wait
Elliot: Rpeh!
Elliot: we have a winner!
Corevette: Not an admin.
Corevette: And no not rpeh
Elliot: You said you sent it to an admin
Corevette: I meant rpeh isn't an admin
Elliot: I sent them to an admin yes
Elliot: Well, lying is an easy thing to do
Corevette: It dosent matter who I sent it to...they have all seen it by now
Elliot: Tell me
Elliot: So I can can your ass for a blatant violation
Corevette: I see I am wasting my time here
Corevette: No , YOU are
Elliot: Editing the wiki is a waste of time
Elliot: All of the incompetent admins are a waste of time
Elliot: YOU are a waste of time
Elliot: Because you are a child trapped in your own shitty wording
Elliot: Now, I know I said shit
Elliot: can you be mature enough to handle that?
Corevette: So why the hell are you wasting your time talking to me
Corevette: If it holds no importance to you why stay here
Elliot: Because it's hilarious
Elliot: Same with rpeh
Elliot: and his little bitching about Eshe dumping his ass
Elliot: Where he cried and got drunk that night
Elliot: that is HILARIOUS
Corevette: I see you have nothing better to do with your time then to trash someone you dont even know
Elliot: Oh, and your Corevette name
Corevette: IS SPELLED WRONG
Corevette: I KNOW
Elliot: I know rpeh better than most
Elliot: Better than you
Corevette: I know that
Elliot: Now go tell him I said this to get him to bitch and whine and moan about how I am a shitty "little man"
Elliot: And tell him I send his mother some love, the poor woman
Corevette: You're disgusting

EtOT has tried to fall back on this rule of "You can't post what I say because of the UESP IRC guidelines" but what he's obviously too stupid to realise is that those guidelines only apply to the main UESP channel - #uespwiki. If I want to send his drivel to the Guardian and ask them to print it in a special pull-out colour section, I can do so without violating a single policy.

It looks like EtOT is violating some kind of confidence with rpeh, too. And, of course, he makes the obligatory comment about someone's mother.

The Chatspike policies can be found here. One of them is "Don't be lame. This includes threatening or abusing people ... and other things too. These Activities Will get you banned from the network". Corevette should report EtOT and get him banned because let's face it - EtOT excels at lame.

Lastly, note that EtOT says that "Editing the wiki is a waste of time". It's time for a kindly admin to make sure he never has to waste his time in this way again.

Nephele the Pious... and Incorrect

Well that didn't take long. Just ten days into her return and Nephele posts her first, overlong, patronising post of the new spell. And it's wrong too. Don't take my word for it though. Here's proof. That's taken on a brand new installation of the game with just Shivering Isles installed, and no mods except the official ones. Better luck next time, Nephele.

Elliot the Bully

It seems that Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick is going after Rawtwat the Vicious's title now.

I've been sent a segment of an IM conversation between EtOT and Corevette789. Please note, it wasn't Corevette who sent it to me. It seems he sent it to someone else to ask for advice about the threats, and that person forwarded it to me.

(There was some conversation before this, but he ran in circles trying to convince me to RM the warning)
Corevette789: To me, it sounds like MDS was the IP
Elliot: Regardless
Corevette789: We just have no way of knowing
Elliot: The warning should be removed
Elliot: or one given to rpeh
Elliot: Until then, I will follow you
Elliot: Not like a cat following you
Elliot: like a wasp
Corevette789: ...
Corevette789: What
Elliot: Ever had a wasp follow you
Elliot: Anywho.. remove it
Elliot: Okay, if you won't give him one
Elliot: I will
Corevette789: SPADE
Corevette789: You can, actually
Corevette789: He cant RM it either
Corevette789: He is affected
Elliot: I cant add it because it was he attacked me
Elliot: YOU can
Corevette789: No you add it, I dont RM it
Corevette789: He cant RM it
Corevette789: Then we do have to wait for an admin (Note:This was a very of stupid Idea but this had been going on for far to long)
Elliot: But I can't add it...
Elliot: If you called me a fucking idiot, I can't warn you
(Right here I just stopped responding. I got sick and tired of him trying to bully me into RMming the warning.)
Elliot: Are you thinking
Elliot: Last chance, remove the warning.
Elliot: You have 24 hours.

Well, the 24 hours are nearly up. What will Elliot the Vicious and Obnoxiously Thick do next?

Bloody hell, he's at it AGAIN!

So Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick's latest retirement is over and he is back at UESP being as obnoxious and thick as ever.

I'm afraid I cannot be bothered providing all the diff links this time. It's yet another argument between EtOT and TGD, in which neither was particularly helpful but EtOT (as ever) was worse. Eventually, Corevette789 gave him a waring and EtOT went to whine about it on the admin noticeboard.

For everybody's sake, can someone please block EtOT for good? He has proven both on UESP and Wikipedia that he is divisive and useless. It also seems he has managed to drive rpeh away from the site. Judging from the tiny number of entries in the patrol log, that means the huge backlog of unpatrolled crap that rpeh cleared up is beginning again.

Somebody block that waste of space before it's too late.

UPDATE: Looks like the Masked Template Guru has taken care of most of the patrolling, but how long will that last?

Welcome Back #2

The more prominent return has, of course, been Nephele, who has been away for nearly eight months. Apparently the whole break was down to work. Let us see how much she becomes involved in the site she once dominated.

Welcome Back #1

First of two users back from the archives is Vesna. She has been away since the end of July 2009 but still holds a place in the top 25 active users.

She was around when I was active in IRC and though her user page describes her as a teenager, it turns out she was only just a teenager, being only 13 when elected as a patroller. The only reason I mention this is that she was always more polite and useful than Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick despite being 5 years younger. Also, she never claimed that people attacked her only because of her age. There's a lesson for you there, EtOT - nobody cares how young you are if you're a nice person doing a good job.

One Last Piece of Idiocy?

I'm away for a few weeks and there's a piece of stupidity from Elliot the Obnoxiously Thick! Who could possibly have predicted such a thing?

The trigger seems to have been some incident in IRC between EtOT and rpeh. At first, EtOT reports it as an "Abuse of power", but after a couple of replies from The Great Deceiver, he decides it was worth an indefinite block.

Now normally, I'd say that TGD's reply is unhelpful, but since it's EtOT we're talking about here, there isn't really any better response. EtOT could just as easily stand for Elliot the Obnoxious Troll, but I would rather emphasise his stupidity.

Unfortunately, TGD didn't follow his own advice. After EtOT changes the title, TGD "reverts trolling", which EtOT undoes while accusing TGD of almost violating 3RR (the Wikipedia rule that says you can't make more than 3 reverts to a page within 24 hours). TGD points out that EtOT is talking out of his arse and EtOT admits the mistake, but doesn't apologise of course.

At this point, Southern Belle steps in. She politely tells EtOT to stop being a trolling bastard and wags a finger at TGD, presumably because she had to find some way of balancing her reply. More whining ensues from EtOT before SB tells him straight: he was trolling in IRC. EtOT then reminds us all why he gets the "Obnoxious" part of his name.

We then get Herschel's first major contribution as an admin. He agrees with SB and also tells EtOT that he's a troll. EtOT bids the site goodbye again before Lucius Tarquinius Superbus adds a typically magnificent reply. NOTE: current number of edits made by EtOT after leaving: 7.

Timenn (and I need a new name - he has not been around enough lately to justify the LGA tag) wraps the discussion up by giving EtOT what must surely be his last unofficial warning.

Hopefully this goodbye will be more permanent than his previous dozen or so. It is now clear that everyone is sick and tired of Elliot. The scariest thing about him is that he shows exactly the same behaviour on UESP and WP and still doesn't understand it when people tell him off. You have to wonder if he is like this in Real Life.